They said they wanted to keep the heat off of them by not becoming this highly talked about vendor. If there are doubts on if it's of needlepoint quality I suggest they send out 3-4 trustworthy members slash mods that have had needlepoint and can valid their claim. I can provide a list of several members i know for a fact knows the difference in needlepoint and silver, white champagne, lavender and so on. nomad bloodbath